Am I A Bigot?!?

Why am I regularly accused of being a bigot?  Perhaps I am!  Here is the definition of the term bigot as supplied by dictionary.com:

“Bigot: A person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, religion or opinion.”

Here I will explain why I think I am not a bigot.  Quite simply, I am not utterly intolerant of different creeds, religions or opinions.  I hear them very often and place myself in a position to have them spoken to me simply by virtue of writing about my own opinion.  In order to be a bigot I would have to be utterly intolerant of these opposing views.

Can anyone demonstrate my utter intolerance?

A further step is needed now however.  To be intolerant means to not be tolerant.  What does it mean to tolerate something?  Again, here is the definition supplied by dictionary.com:

“Tolerate: to allow the existence, presence, practice, or act of without prohibition or hindrance; permit.”

Can it be said that I do not allow the existence, presence, practice or actions of people without prohibition or hindrance?  Partly.

Here is the crux of the matter.  I disagree with people about whether certain things are morally acceptable.  Things which are not morally acceptable should not be allowed.  Society does not allow murder, pedophilia, incest, rape, theft or any number of other things.  We are, quite rightly, not very tolerant of people murdering other people.  So society prohibits the practice of all of the above.

In order for someone to fairly accuse me of being a bigot, they would have to demonstrate how I am intolerant and in order to do this they would then have to show how the particular disagreement differs from the above, very healthy, examples of “tolerated intolerance.”

Am I a bigot?  No, I am not.  Am I intolerant of certain behaviors?  Yes I am.

So is everyone.

Let me preempt the people who think they have an easy answer.  Homosexuality, as a behavior, is not morally acceptable according to the Christian worldview.  If you disagree then you are free to explain why you think homosexual behavior is acceptable within the Christian worldview.  If you would like to reject the Christian worldview then please suggest your own.  Please bear in mind that your suggested worldview should explain the following parts of reality:

  • Origin of Life
  • Morality
  • Purpose of Life
  • Destiny of Life

I am quite interested in the thinking of other people and so you are very welcome to explain your worldview to me.

Of course, some people will simply want to discard the Christian worldview.  If this is your position then please do not bother.  Unless you can supply good reasons and a sound alternative, then you will not have meaningfully contributed anything to the conversation.  Likewise, if you would prefer to spend your time being the big boy or girl behind the keyboard, please take your hollow accusations elsewhere.  Reading my blog and responding to it is your choice.  Displaying your responses is my choice.

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  1. Bigot is to Hide behind God. I see it in a negative way for that.. is the Hiding word.
    Sure as Christian we put ..or usually put Christ in a front of us..before a travel or other reason..
    But that’s not Hiding behind God..it is more putting God ..Ahead..

    Bigot is to Grip behind God. Like you said people keep a on thing in mind and doesn’t move from it.

    As Christian we known that with God all is moving, changing, evolving..Healing and it is a part..of what can tell you that : He Is The Living God

    Here Brother my thought, I hope that many more join and I write
    Bless You
    Wil.

    1. Thanks Wil!

      Do I hide behind God? Yes I think I do – but of course in the Bible it says we have a hiding place IN God. So maybe I hide inside of God…

      1. Sorry jcorday. I didn’t say and think, you were a Biggot, it is how I view it..
        Actually by be behind God …I did not wanted to express as a support (be behind God…a follower) Nothing wrong with that. I try my best to follow here..lol

        No I did see as those who use God… who hide themselves (and often not too good one)
        behind God, that You don’t see them.. using the Bible to confuse or accuse…and They use refuge by using God or godly stuff for their own purpose
        To resume, Look very religious on the outside but have no Clue About The Love OF Christ
        And that be a Biggot..
        (and it is one way to put it, among surely plenty others)

        Bless You

  2. “In order to be a bigot I would have to be utterly intolerant of these opposing views.”

    but you are utterly intolerant of opposing views. you rally against the rights of homosexuals and encourage others to do the same. like i said previously – i dont agree in christianity but i enirely accept your right to your faith and to practice your faith. you are unwilling to extend the same courtesy to homosexuals,

    “I disagree with people about whether certain things are morally acceptable. Things which are not morally acceptable should not be allowed. Society does not allow murder, pedophilia, incest, rape, theft or any number of other things. We are, quite rightly, not very tolerant of people murdering other people. So society prohibits the practice of all of the above.

    In order for someone to fairly accuse me of being a bigot, they would have to demonstrate how I am intolerant and in order to do this they would then have to show how the particular disagreement differs from the above, very healthy, examples of “tolerated intolerance.”

    because comparing homosexuality to rape and murder is a complete non sequitur. homosexuality is a victimless life choice, if two people of the same sex choose to be together in a sexual and emotional relationship that is there choice and does not harm other people.

    if someone murders someone they take away that persons life against their will. by raping someone you force yourself on them sexually against their will. if you steal you take the property of another person against their will. homosexuality isnt remotely comparable in cases of consenting adults choosing to be together. there are clear moral reasons for why as a society we do not tolerate these behaviours – there is no such justification for not allowing consenting adults to choose to be together.

    “Homosexuality, as a behavior, is not morally acceptable according to the Christian worldview. If you disagree then you are free to explain why you think homosexual behavior is acceptable within the Christian worldview.”

    i am not a christian – that is clear. it is irrelevant if homosexuality is forbidden within the christian worldview, im not denying that. the fact is that the christian worldview has no right to dominate the rest of society where people don’t share christian beliefs. you dont seem to grasp that the christian worldview has no right to dominate over the lives of people who dont agree with that worldview. this is the crux of the issue.

    “If you would like to reject the Christian worldview then please suggest your own. Please bear in mind that your suggested worldview should explain the following parts of reality:

    Origin of Life
    Morality
    Purpose of Life
    Destiny of Life”

    Origin of life: unknown
    Morality: formed by reasonable argument based on the consequences of actions
    Purpose of life: there is none, nor is there any reason that there should be. we exist – thats all we know.
    Destiny of life: there is no destiny, live and love, treat others as you wish to be treated.

    “Unless you can supply good reasons and a sound alternative, then you will not have meaningfully contributed anything to the conversation. ”

    there are good reasons why people should speak out against religious intolerance towards homosexuals – mainly that is none of your business. it is a victimless choice that does not concern you.

    “Likewise, if you would prefer to spend your time being the big boy or girl behind the keyboard, please take your hollow accusations elsewhere. Reading my blog and responding to it is your choice. Displaying your responses is my choice.”

    theres no beig ‘big behind a keyboard’. no one is issuing threats, merely disagreeing with you regarding your desire to discriminate against others.

    1. I respond here and include your comments as quotes and mine in bold:

      but you are utterly intolerant of opposing views. you rally against the rights of homosexuals and encourage others to do the same. like i said previously – i dont agree in christianity but i enirely accept your right to your faith and to practice your faith. you are unwilling to extend the same courtesy to homosexuals,

      This is precisely the point. Freedom of religion is a right. Homosexual behavior is not a religion. It is a moral choice and is, and should be, subject to the same criticisms which other moral choices are subjected to. Are you suggesting that homosexual behavior is not a choice?

      because comparing homosexuality to rape and murder is a complete non sequitur. homosexuality is a victimless life choice, if two people of the same sex choose to be together in a sexual and emotional relationship that is there choice and does not harm other people.

      if someone murders someone they take away that persons life against their will. by raping someone you force yourself on them sexually against their will. if you steal you take the property of another person against their will. homosexuality isnt remotely comparable in cases of consenting adults choosing to be together. there are clear moral reasons for why as a society we do not tolerate these behaviours – there is no such justification for not allowing consenting adults to choose to be together.

      This is not a non sequitur in that we differ on one thing: the nature of the choice. You say that homosexual behavior is a victimless life choice. Yet I think this is not true. Study after study point out the negative health consequences of homosexual behavior. Is there a victim of homosexual behavior? Yes, the victims are those who engage in this behavior. Should the government try to restrict this behavior in order to protect their health? The government already restricts the behavior of people who smoke, people who choose to do drugs and people who drink alcohol. All of these behaviors could be said to be self-inflicted and also harmful and yet the government wants to decrease the incidence of each of them.

      i am not a christian – that is clear. it is irrelevant if homosexuality is forbidden within the christian worldview, im not denying that. the fact is that the christian worldview has no right to dominate the rest of society where people don’t share christian beliefs. you dont seem to grasp that the christian worldview has no right to dominate over the lives of people who dont agree with that worldview. this is the crux of the issue.

      I do not believe Christianity, or Christian thought, has the right to dominate government policy or anyone’s moral choices. However, Christians are citizens and as such they have the right to expect their government to listen to their point of view. Do you deny citizens this right?

      Origin of life: unknown
      Morality: formed by reasonable argument based on the consequences of actions
      Purpose of life: there is none, nor is there any reason that there should be. we exist – thats all we know.
      Destiny of life: there is no destiny, live and love, treat others as you wish to be treated.

      As a worldview, this is deficient. You have postulated no explanation for the origin of life and yet appealed to reason as a means for attaining morality. Reason demands a cause for the universe. Furthermore, to claim reason can supply morality is to make morality subject to reason. While this sounds nice, it places the determining of morality squarely in the hands of people. Again, some people think this sounds good. However, history is simply crammed full of examples where morality, as determined by people, has been thoroughly wrong and extremely harmful.

      Without a purpose for life, your morality is actually some form of nihilism. This means there is nothing objectively true as a morality or even possibly as a reality. Given such a viewpoint, why should life not be full of despair? Why, in the absence of any kind of destiny or ultimate judgment, should we treat others as we wish to be treated? Why not treat others in the most selfish way possible?

      This is an uncritical worldview which has severe limitations.

  3. “This is precisely the point. Freedom of religion is a right. Homosexual behavior is not a religion. It is a moral choice and is, and should be, subject to the same criticisms which other moral choices are subjected to.”

    Again, this is a classic example of a non sequitur. It is also untrue to state that homosexuality is a moral choice – morality doesn’t come into it. This implies there is something inherently wrong with homosexual behaviour – which there isn’t, Only your intolerance makes you feel this way. A moral choice would be more like a paedophile deciding whether to meet with that underage girl for sex or not. There is a moral dilemma as taking advantage of a minor is morally wrong.

    On top of that it is all besides the point – the topic is about whether or not you are a bigot and intolerant of those of different opinions: I am explaining why this is the case.

    “Are you suggesting that homosexual behavior is not a choice?”

    We discussed this in the previous thread and i explained this to you. To engage in homosexual behaviour is a choice – but the choice is not a moral one, it is based off natural, sexual instincts. You argue against these instincts, but only because you do not wish them to be true, you cannot accept that your God made gay people. Your believe is hinged on a very strong vested interest: If God made gay people, and speaks out against them in the bible – then maybe the bible is wrong? There are a few simple questions to ask yourself to try and understand this issue. It disturbs me to see you speak of empathy and love but refuse to accept some simple truths….

    Can you choose to stop being attracted to women? Could you divorce your wife tomorrow – turn off all emotions and sexual feelings and shack up with a man because your sexuality was a choice and society tells you to? If the answer is no then why do you expect this of others?

    “You say that homosexual behavior is a victimless life choice. Yet I think this is not true. Study after study point out the negative health consequences of homosexual behavior. Is there a victim of homosexual behavior? Yes, the victims are those who engage in this behavior.”

    I would LOVE to see these studies. What are the negative health consequences of homosexual behaviour? This is also a clearly flawed argument as in the other examples given the victims did not make a CHOICE to be a victim, (ignoring the fact that someone isn’t a victim by choosing to engage in a homosexual relationship in the first place): the two scenarious are not remotely comparable.

    Homosexuality feelings are a choice, not an instinct.
    Evidence suggests homosexual behaviour is harmful.
    Evolution is not true.

    Are you familiar with the term confirmation bias? Read this article and ask yourself honsetly: does any of this apply?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

    You’re completely neglecting the most important point I was making which is that THEIR CHOICE.

    “The government already restricts the behavior of people who smoke, people who choose to do drugs and people who drink alcohol. All of these behaviors could be said to be self-inflicted”

    All of those behaviours are completely different from the original examples given when you argued that “Things which are not morally acceptable should not be allowed. Society does not allow murder, pedophilia, incest, rape, theft or any number of other things.”

    Whilst it is true they could be classed as ‘self-inflicted’ this is a completely irrelevant tangent distrating from the topic at hand, which was the comparison of homosexual behaviour to murder and rape.

    “I do not believe Christianity, or Christian thought, has the right to dominate government policy or anyone’s moral choices. However, Christians are citizens and as such they have the right to expect their government to listen to their point of view. Do you deny citizens this right?”

    You’re entitled to believe that homoesexuals shouldn’t have equal rights and you’re entitled to demand the government to listen to your demands to discriminate against homosexuals – but don’t complain when you’re called an intolerant bigot because of it.

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